conda-forge core meeting 2023-01-11

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Attendees

Name	Initials	GitHub ID	Affiliation
Dave Clements	DPC	tnabtaf	Anaconda
Marcelo Trevisani	MDT	marcelotrevisani	conda-forge
Jannis Leidel	JL	jezdez	Anaconda/cf
John Kirkham	JK	jakirkham	NVIDIA/cf
Daniel Ching	DJC	carterbox	Argonne
Cheng H. Lee	CHL	chenghlee	Anaconda/cf
Marcel Bargull	MB	mbargull	Bioconda/cf
Filipe Fernandes	FF	ocefpaf	conda-forge
Jaime Rodríguez-Guerra	JRG	jaimergp	Quansight/cf
Wolf Vollprecht	WV	wolfv	prefix/cf
Matthew Becker	MRB	beckermr	cf

15 people total (MRB arrived halfway through)

Standing items

• intros for new folks on the call

  • Jesse Wiles, dev on Anaconda.org

• open votes *

From previous meeting(s)

Your new() agenda items

• (DPC) Channels
  • Google Group has been shutdown
  • Matrix conda-forge space:
  • Docs of all channels
    • https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l-djUkCUpEeGHd1DOklppi-lwHCH2yov0bUD4krOnp0/edit#gid=1720588473
• (JK) Tokens needing resets
  • https://github.com/conda-forge/status/issues/137
  • Need to start rotating tokens. CircleCI had a leak and we use same token Have started rotating
    • Mitigations: https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-smithy/issues/1709, https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-smithy/issues/1708
  • All feedstocks now have broken tokens.
  • We had a bug!
  • Matt fixed, but still cleaning up.
  • 2/3 of packages are through with the rotation.
  • New token requests go to Admin-requests repo
• (MB) Python prerelease
  • Came up on the last Conda community sync meeting.
  • This is not to please the ones begging for newer version being available "ASAP"
  • Python 3.12 removes distutils from stdlib (!!)
    • distutils currently used in conda.common.pkg_formats.python and conda.auxlib.packaging; see conda/conda#11136
      • JRG: distutils still in setuptools, no? JL: yes, but there are patches to remove setuptools IIRC, e.g. https://github.com/conda/conda-build/pull/4443
      • HV: distutils will continue to live in setuptools
  • Related CEP draft about CPython support for conda: https://github.com/conda-incubator/ceps/pull/24
• (MB) R 4.2.2 (released in October) Windows builds *
• (MB) MinGW-w64/MSYS2 UCRT64
  • https://www.msys2.org/docs/environments/
  • https://www.msys2.org/news/#2022-10-29-changing-the-default-environment-from-mingw64-to-ucrt64
  • https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/F37MingwUCRT (Should look at other distros to see what they've done)
  • (CHL) Windows >=10 ships UCRT by default. Windows 7 and 8.1 have officially reached EOL, so Anaconda (is planning to drop)/(has dropped) support for them.
  • repo with the repackaging work: https://github.com/conda-forge/msys2-recipes
• (MB) Travis CI w/ ppc64le
  • No other ppc64le provider available (in the future?).
  • Who uses ppc64le? Can we let them pay/work on supporting this platform?
  • (CHL) Is Oregon State's Open-Source Labs a feasible option?
    • https://osuosl.org/services/powerdev/
    • https://powerci.osuosl.org/
• (JRG) Updates on the GPU CI and next steps
  • Built first GPU package on conda-forge yesterday.
  • Need to figure access control (to our GPU server)
  • Applies to Travis and GPU server.
  • Could also be applied to access to future (for example) AWS credits.
• (JRG) Updates on the CZI grant
  • $325K over next 2 years to be spent by Quansight and QuantStack.
  • Follow progress on https://github.com/Quansight-Labs/czi-conda-forge-mgmt
  • 3 areas:
    • Infrastructure
    • OCI mirroring
    • Dashboarding
  • Work done by two companies, but work benefits conda-forge, and bioconda
• (JRG) Meeting notes workflow
  • Use singl trigger to create notes, put on HackMD, and then sync back to GitHub.
  • Might be in place by next call.
• updates on bots and secrets
  • we've centralized most of what we use in 1password
  • i've removed some of the keybase files that are old or misleading
  • we use github apps for everything where we can
  • will develop notes
• (HV) OpenSSL 3: https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge-pinning-feedstock/issues/3838
  • JRG: Deferred to next meeting.

Active votes

• cfep-21 license packages for static/header libraries
  • Opened July 25, 2022 ends August 2, 2022

CFEPs

• cfep-12 Removing packages that violate the terms of the source package
  • Stalled since May 26, 2020
  • Active debate about moving to "broken" vs deleting from conda-forge channel
  • Active vote, ends on 2020-03-11
  • What were the results of the vote?
  • Did we hear back from NumFOCUS? they did the legal seminar which is recorded